Tools - ProWritingAid vs Grammarly

has anyone used both and recommend one over the other? One review I read showed a bit lower scores for the quality of ProWritingAid editing recommendations. any confirmation of this or insights?
Thoughts and experiences?

I use grammarly and like it. The best thing is it works well as part of Word, so you can look at the grammarly suggestions right in your Word docx. I wait until Iā€™m finished and then run grammarly and look at its suggestions. Itā€™s not always right, but I like having a ā€œsecondā€ check.

Anyone else using the free version of Grammarly? Does it drive you as insane as itā€™s driving me?

Putting the manuscript of Book One through it, Iā€™m discovering itā€™s two parts dumb to one part clever.

Rule-based as it is, the pure grammar engine does better than I do. But thereā€™s a problem. Grammarly knows grammar but nothing about style.

It keeps nagging me to add transition phrases, in particular, ā€˜insteadā€™. Itā€™s driving me f***** insane. There is no ā€˜instead.ā€™ Itā€™s the next action. It also keeps trying to insert ā€˜thenā€™ and ā€˜unfortunatelyā€™ at the start of sentences.

And inserting ā€˜thatā€™. Yes, the word every writing coach on the planet tells you to go through and delete.

Dumb.

It canā€™t really cope with informal language, can it?

Itā€™s suggesting ā€˜Becauseā€™ in place of 'cause. ā€˜May not be appropriate in this context.ā€™ It clearly knows nothing about context. Itā€™s worse than my drunk English teacher in the 1980ā€™s.

It also doesnā€™t like repeated words or sentence structures. It knows nothing of rhetoric, of repetition for emphasis.

ā€˜It may be unclear who she refers to.ā€™ Thereā€™s only two people in the dialog, one man ā€˜heā€™, one woman ā€˜sheā€™. Duh.

Spelling: when does the verb ā€˜to get awayā€™ become ā€˜to getawayā€™?.

But it is a hip-hop fan. Why else does it want to replace ā€˜the two pack poniesā€™ (ponies carrying packs, two of them) with ā€˜the two-pack ponies?ā€™ Whatā€™s next? Suggest ā€˜the biggest horseā€™ changed to ā€˜the Biggie horse?ā€™ :rofl:

I havenā€™t tried Grammarly, but it sounds like it has similar issues as Prowritingaid, which Iā€™ve found to be pretty frustrating. It doesnā€™t really like fictional writing at all, even though thatā€™s what itā€™s supposed to be built for.

Iā€™m complaining about Grammarly even though I know itā€™s not designed for fiction; itā€™s aimed at dull corporate reports.

I wrote up some more examples on the blog, it was getting unintentionally hilarious:

It also has the vocabulary of a ten-year old.

However, it has been a useful prompt to get me to look at my prose with a sceptical eye. Instead of accepting or rejecting a lot of the dumb suggestions, Iā€™m looking at the text and re-writing better prose.

Iā€™ve ditched Grammarly this week (partly because itā€™s changed itā€™s behaviour on the free page and the browser extension is rubbish so Iā€™m refuse to pay for it). Iā€™m trying some other equivalent tools.

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Well, itā€™s two years later, but an update might be useful.

Iā€™ve been using Grammarly Pro and Autocrit for a year, and ProWritingAid for about 6 months.

I use all three and intend to continue with that practice because each has strengths and weaknesses.

I write in MS Word. Grammarly and Autocrit have Word Plugins, which I much prefer to internet interfaces. Plus, I donā€™t like writing things that are important in a web browser, itā€™s far less safe than a local program.

Grammarly makes a bunch of good suggestions and quite frequently makes bad ones. Because itā€™s geared towards Modern Standard Business English, it also makes useless suggestions that are often inappropriate for fiction. I define a bad suggestion as one in which it suggests a different way to write a sentence that completely changes (and often reverses) the meaning. It has a good interface for moving through a document to discover all the suggestions itā€™s made. That part is fast. It suffers from re-adding a suggestion I just rejected, which frankly infuriates me. That said, I make a LOT fewer mistakes in my writing because of Grammarly. It not only catches errors, but the repetitive fixing of them teaches me not to make that type of mistake as often.

ProWritingAid has similar issues. I like the granularity of its reports better than Grammarly, but the interface for working thru a document is bad. For the real-time checker, they swear there are ā€œnext and backā€ buttons to go directly to the next suggestion, but there arenā€™t. So I find myself paging thru the document to find the suggestions. I have a long book and that is NOT fun. Reports work differently I this regard and itā€™s easy to just go thru the list of issues. However, some reports have multiple sections of issues, with each section being a different type of issue. An example would be Grammar issues vs Spelling issues. I like to fix all of one type of mistake, then go to the next type of mistake. Why? Because my mind is already primed to handle one type of mistake and Iā€™m not wasting mental time and energy doing context switching between different types of errors. But, letā€™s say a word shows up in the spelling section and is ALSO in the grammar section because itā€™s sentence is. Iā€™ll be toodling through the spelling section and get to a word thatā€™s also in a grammar section. The next thing I know, Iā€™m now working in grammar issues and wherever I was in the spelling list of issues is off screen. Frustrating and disorienting. It does seem to understand different types of writing though, because the real-time checker shows different things depending on what genre I tell it Iā€™m writing.

But both these products have real strengths, so I use them both. The do disagree at times with one another over grammar.

Lastly, I use autocrit. Itā€™s not for grammar checking, itā€™s more for writing style. I have to upload my word doc to Autocritā€™s web interface. It provides a lot of really useful reports to help improve my writing. Itā€™s great. Except for making the changes in word, re-uploading it to Autocrit, and re-running the reports. ProWritingAid has a lot of good reports as well. I particularly like the sensory report.

Autocrit and ProWritingAid both have AI components that attempt to evaluate your story and point out potential issues with the story (as opposed to the spelling/grammar). I find ProWritingAidā€™s <4000 word chapter critique pretty easy to read, and it often has useful insights. The 4000 word limit is a pain, as is the limitation of only running it 1 or 3 times per day, depending on your plan. Theyā€™ve recently added a Manuscript Evaluation that can handle up to 150,000 words, but you have to pay for each one you run. Current pricing is $25 to $50. I heartily dislike both limitations. The first is annoying and the latter I consider money-grubbing. I canā€™t speak for the quality of the full manuscript eval as I havenā€™t ponied up for it.

Autocrit can handle much larger manuscripts. Iā€™ve done as much as 250,000 words. It will do an overall analysis and also chapter-level analysis. For this purpose, chapters are limited to 10,000 words. And, you can run these as often as you like, itā€™s part of the program. The printed format of the analysis isnā€™t as nicely laid out as ProWritingAid. Autocritā€™s evals give much more detailed information though I think they need some fine-tuning. (They seem to be driven to find transformational character arcs whether they are there or not.) In addition, you can ask it to analyze your work in terms of several standard beat sheets. You can also ask it to reverse-engineer a list of plot points from your already existing writing. So, if you are a pantser instead of a planner, you can get the benefit of having an outline to review after you finish your draft version.

Hope you find this useful!